Upcoming Interview on Coast to Coast AM and More on The Bowl of Light

Aloha from Hawai'i Island. Jill and I have been busy with our teaching schedule and working on our land when we can.

I hope you can join me for my upcoming appearance on Coast to Coast AM with George Noury on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 from 11pm to 2am Pacific Time, where among other things, we will be discussing my new book The Bowl of Light: Ancestral Wisdom from a Hawaiian Shaman. If you are unable to join us for the live broadcast, you can listen to it after the air date on the Coast to Coast AM website.

The Bowl of Light

The Bowl of Light CoverIn 1996, a momentous trail crossing occurred in Hawai'i between Jill and myself, and the Hawaiian elder and kahuna Hale Makua (pronounced Ha-lay Ma-koo-ah). A friendship took root and over the next eight years, our philosophical discussions about the nature of the self and the nature of reality took Jill and me into uncharted spiritual territory.
With The Bowl of Light: Ancestral Wisdom from a Hawaiian Shaman (Sounds True, May 2011), you will get a rare glimpse into the heart of the kahuna tradition as I unveil the teachings passed down to me from Makua, as he was known. Before his untimely passing in 2004, this revered shaman and wisdom keeper granted me permission to share sacred spiritual knowledge seldom imparted to outsiders, including:

  • The kahuna perspective that each one of us possesses not one, but three quite separate souls during life, and how those three function.
  • The nature of our immortal Oversoul or Higher Self that he called ‘Aumakua.
  • Different levels of reality and how they reflect our personal soul development.
  • The four bowls of learning from which we all must drink during our time here on Earth.
  • The Ancestral Grand Plan—exploring the path our ancestors set in motion millennia ago and how the Plan is playing out across the world today.
  • Basic principles that allow us to experience the power of “aloha,” of love.
  • Guidelines for the next cycle of ages that will lead us toward the evolution of a new level of consciousness that is our individual and collective destiny.

“It’s not the year 2012 that is important. It’s 2013,” said Hale Makua to a group of students in 2002, as recounted in the book, “For this is when we will begin the next cycle of ages. This means that we have to create a new foundation for the next cycle, and what we decide to build on will determine the spiritual focus as well as our lifeways for much of the next several thousand years.”

“We have some hard decisions to make, and we have to make them now,” Makua laughed softly. “We are now in the position to create a new world for our descendants, and especially for the next seven generations. This will require a massive shift out of the negative and into the positive polarity, and at all levels of our lives.”

More About Hank and Makua

Hank and MakuaHank Wesselman, PhD, (pictured here left of Hale Makua) is a paleoanthropologist and cutting-edge scientist who walks in many worlds. He did his undergraduate work and his Masters Degree in Zoology at the University of Colorado at Boulder. He then served in the US Peace Corps, living among people of the Yoruba Tribe in Nigeria where he first became interested in indigenous spiritual traditions. He then went on to receive his doctoral degree in Anthropology from the University of California at Berkeley. For much of the past 40 years, he has conducted research with an international group of scientists, exploring eastern Africa's Great Rift Valley in search of answers to the mystery of human origins. His fieldwork has allowed him to spend much of his life living with tribal peoples rarely, if ever, visited by outsiders, among whom he first encountered traditional shamans. 

Dr. Wesselman is also a shamanic practitioner and teacher, now in the 29th year of his apprenticeship. The books in his autobiographical trilogy—Spiritwalker, Medicinemaker, and Visionseeker—have been published in 13 languages and reveal the nature of his initiation into the shaman’s world of mystery and magic, documenting his investigations into a hidden reality that most of us have heard about, but few have experienced directly. Hank is also the author of The Journey to the Sacred Garden—book with CD; Spirit Medicine (with Jill Kuykendall)—book with CD; The Spiritwalker Teachings (with Jill Kuykendall)—a six CD set with booklet; and Little Ruth Reddingford and the Wolf (with Raquel Abreu)—a story for children. 

Hale Makua

Hale MakuaHale Makua was a holy man, a kahuna mystic, and a wisdom keeper who was highly regarded throughout the oceanic world of Polynesia and beyond. Through his mother’s lineage, he was a seventh-generation direct descendant of the famous high chief and king Kamehameha Nui—a family line through which he was also a direct descendant of Kamehameha’s ancestors High Chief Umi and High Chief Liloa. Through his father’s lineage, he was a seventh-generation direct descendant of Kamehameha’s cousin, the beloved High Chief Keoua Ku‘ahu‘ula of the district of Ka‘u, also on Hawai‘i Island. He served with the United States Marine Corps and eventually achieved the rank of gunnery sergeant. Makua was a warrior directly involved in major military conflicts from Beirut in the 1950s to the Vietnam War in the 1970s, where he was severely wounded during his last tour of duty. As an indigenous elder, he was continually invited to many cross-cultural gatherings and international conferences across the years, including the United Nations in New York, where he sat on stage with His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Makua was a member of the International Elders Council in service to humanity and global peace.


Hank! It was too short!

I resonate with several parts of your over all message and at the same time, when it comes to native belief systems I nearly always feel the part of "outside looking in", and, too, have the distinct feeling that I should not 'look to closely' and so avoid violating privacy.

I am a little surprised that there is not more dialoging here on your site... a variety of (pardon the term) new-age authors develop a sort of community that explores and develops the ideas put forth. Is that something you would feel comfortable with or would rather discourage?

I read your earlier spirit walker books and enjoyed then a lot, but then was left with a feeling of "Well, NOW what....?"

At any rate, I am looking forward to reading The Golden Bowl, and, though it was too short, it was elsewise as fine an interview as might be had via radio.

PS.... some writers and speakers are getting around this (there are a number or problems with radio interviews)by "being interviewed" my non-commercial agents, or recording talks that they may give, and making these items available on youtube.

Many Alohas,

I wanted to call in, but I was doing an overnight shift with a very unresponsive person who was sleeping. There was no way I could call in. Here is what I wanted to say. On the news break, on the radio, the newscaster said something about Pheobe Snow's death at the age of 60 years old. But, he had premised the subject with something like - "forever silenced, the voice of Phoebe Snow, who has died at the age of 60 years old...she was known for her song 'The Poetry Man". I remember that song very well, in the early 70's. Well, I didn't think - "forever silenced" at all! I was thinking quite the opposite. Her name, and her songs Will go on forever, and it is true that the veil is thinning. I believe that her music and Phoebe will very well go on, and Not forever silenced. Just a comment about how the newsman had said the thing he said and what a great commentary you had on George Noory's show, and giving us a glimpse into the future. Also, not a pessimistic outlook, but more of a certain optimism that we should all try to embrace. Thank You, K. Hamilton

Every since I was a child I have felt that the earth was going to reach a. "rollover point." if you will, a point where it will reset and regenerate itself. all the pollution and environmental damage will be filtered out. Earth will heal itself. We have come across many civilizations that have been destroyed by this same type of self correction from the earth. I think its obvious,we are having some real life changing disasters. It has people baffled, and scared.
It's almost as if we were shot from a rifled barrel and we are spinning across the Universe, towards our target.That target can be different from person to person. It may also be different from Civilization to Civilization. I say Hallelujah.
What else should one do, argue with destiny?
long live the Wise-men who foretold of this since the beginning of time.
Thank you for reading

In the late 1980s, I was blessed to attend a meditation session in company with my Hawaiian Kumu Kahi Wight at Hale's home in Kalapana. It was an enriching experience and I will never forget the aura that enfolded our small group as we sat quietly in a circle.
Mahalo for your words of wisdom last night on Coast to Coast bringing the memory of my short time with Kahuna Hale Makua to the surface of my mind.
Me Ke Aloha

Eh huzzit, I was born and raised in Hawaii for half a century. Never heard of Hale Makua. What's his birth name, maybe we're related. I'm half Hawaiian. Lots of locals will trace their lineage back to King Kamehameha (and earlier). Never heard of this self-proclaimed Kahuna. How come? Again, what's his birth name? Maybe he went to Kamehameha schools with my oldah bruddahs. Played football and drank beer at the beach with them. Mahalo

Love the book. Am in my second reading and haven't even scratched the surface of all the knowledge and wisdom you and Jill have garnered from this remarkable Kahuna, Hale Makua.

Hope to see you in Breitenbush for V3

Aloha nui,


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